[Campaign] Superconsciousness Some questions for Arthur Cristian
Nigel and Melissa
melissa.beckwith at virgin.net
Sat Jul 28 09:01:27 EST 2007
Dear Jim,
I do not wish to answer for Arthur, as he is highly capable of doing that for himself, yet I do feel the need to make a reply to your request for answers, that if you do not mind me saying, do not have the ring of "seeker" about them.
Light and dark are words and can mean many things, this meaning can also be abused. What anyone of us means is down to how we try to express what we are experiencing and understanding about the world. This does not make it similar to "controlling religious systems" as what they said and what they meant were often two entirely different things.
Next, if a Doctor says "sorry I do not believe in sticking leeches onto patients anymore to heal them, I prefer to use more enlightened techiniques"; would you accuse him/her of simply trying to control the world to make him/her more comfortable??
Your arguments are shallow, yet I hope that in all you are not, so that we can all rise above this and make this world the place that it might be. After all you cannot pretend that you would enjoy having your property unlawfully taken or to be attacked by the authorities that you and your ancestors have been supporting and fighting for for centuries, and thought them just. If this happened to you, would not your world view change?
Lions and Deer do not have highly evolved brains. Perhaps you are happy to use examples on this level, but we have a design which is capable of so much more should we choose to rise above the animal nature.
There is more, but I will leave it at this for now.
Nigel.
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Subject: [Campaign] Superconsciousness Some questions for Arthur Cristian
Jim said 26th July 4.43pm....
Arthur, Having read your flier page and some of your dialog with members of the Superconsciousness Group and others which you have selectively published on your website, I would like to ask you a few questions concerning your beliefs.
On your flier page, you comment on the so-called ancient battle between light and darkness, attempting to allegorically align these two natural conditions with your perceptions of good and evil. This supposed parallel between the light of day and the dark of night with what you see as right and wrong seem suspiciously similar to those ideas found in the Judeo-Christian belief system. You also comment on the biblical character of Satan, writing that anyone who establishes or upholds the various societal laws is serving/worshipping Satan, and is thereby in rebellion against the Supreme Creator of true community. In fact, these last comments smack so much of those same old tired, worn out religious tenets, used by people to control other people for ages, that it bears mention for that reason alone.
So, here's my first question: How is it that you presume to know the truth which the rest of us self-centered dummy slaves just can't seem to grasp? You speak of gods and demons and human constructs, but I question your understanding of these things. You claim to espouse love, but it seems that you have no love for those who you feel are responsible for your loss of personal property.
On your website, you comment on arrogance, ignorance, and self-centeredness, equating the latter with evil.
"BEING SELF-CENTRED IS BEING EVIL
THE MORE SELF-CENTRED WE BECOME
THE GREATER THE EVIL WE PERFORM"
So, here are my second and third questions: What has motivated you to head up a grass roots movement to attempt to change the world, if not your own self-centered desire to make the world more pleasing to you, attempting to force it more into line with your personal ideology? Where is this so-called Supreme Creator you wrote of but failed to show, and is it the same Creator of Real Community that produced communities of of mountain lions that feed on communities of deer?
My final question, Arthur: In the utopia you envision, who decides which human families get to live on the waterfronts and which human families have to live in desert lands, and who decides whether human rights should prevail over those of other animals, and who decides upon the division of food? There really isn't enough room for everyone to live in beachfront homes, you know?
Jim
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In reply Arthur Cristian says...
Hello Jim
If you were in Russia and everyone spoke the Slavic language bar yourself and no Russian knew how to read, write or talk in English and you desperately wanted to communicate with Russians so they can comprehend everything you feel from your heart (soul), then you would need to learn the Slavic language. The same applies with the comprehension of consciousness (real feelings) that I write about, as it is an un-familiarised territory for many of us in Australia, UK, America, Canada and NZ etc. For you to fully comprehend consciousness (real feelings), allowing you to find (feel) the answers that you seek to your most important questions, you need to spend time feeling the meanings to the words that form the phrases, sentences, paragraphs, chapters and articles being conveyed through the English Language that I am using. Either you feel what I say with love in your heart or you think/assume (intellectualise) what I am saying without love from your heart. Either you come from a place of good intentions, or not, determines the way you will respond to what I am feeling. Without feeling what I am saying you can never fully grasp the real feelings that I have about life.
The questions you have asked of me to answer have been derived from your personal current version of reality and this version of reality is not one that lives for me so how can I provide you with your answers when we are on different wave lengths. I see Satan as a metaphor. I don't believe in Satan. I am not a believer of Christianity or the story of Jesus Christ. I don't follow any religions and I definitely do not believe in any man-made constructs that allows only a select few to be the master and ruler over my family and determine what pathways we should traverse through life.
I have never presumed at any time that you, or for that matter, that anyone else are being self-centred dummies as you have stated. How am I to know if you are self-centred or not? Only you could possibly arrive to such a conclusion at this point of time. I do not know you and as I currently do not know how your life effects others including the natural world it is not my place to judge you. How rude and unfair would this be Jim, to dump such garbage upon you. So why are you judging me in such a hostile manner? I personally feel that it is always best for you to judge yourself. With a healthy conscience and a strong sense of morality to stop you from ever stepping over the mark to DO HARM to anyone or anything of nature, you would have nothing to worry about and no need to be judging yourself. But everything changes when you begin to DO HARM to others, forcing others to stop you from continuing to DO HARM.
Are you seeking To Do Harm To Anyone right now Jim?
Or are you in need of someone to help you with an overburden conscience?
Or is your conscience clear and that you have nothing to worry about?
I raise these points to have you explain why you have written to me in such a hostile manner.
Are you in someway threatened with what I stated in the flier page?
We do not know each other and nothing has passed between us until this email arrived today and yet for whatever reason that only you will know, you prefer to come into my life without any good-will. Why is that Jim?
Are you a mean person Jim?
Or are you plagued with your own demons seeking to attack others?
Is it hard for you to be a kind person?
The purpose of all my writings which are clearly stated over and over again is to DO NO HARM to ourselves, to others and to nature. To instil the values where I Am In Duty To You And You Are In Duty To Me and in this way no one is DOING HARM TO ANY LIFE-FORM AT ANY-TIME.
Is their something wrong with not wanting to DO NO HARM and inspiring others to DO NO HARM?
Are you subtly suggesting to Fiona and I that we should change our ways and accept/allow others to DO HARM?
It is the DARK (lies - liars) ) that has the problem with the LIGHT (truth - truth seekers) and that is why those who are imbued with DARKNESS or are of the DARKNESS are attacking the LIGHT. The LIGHT is not at war with the DARKNESS. It is the DARKNESS that is at war with the LIGHT. The LIGHT and those of the light have never been at war with the DARKNESS because it has no need to. Only darkness causes chaos.
Are you of the Darkness Jim? or are you of the Light?
Are you implying in some subtle way that we should not be in duty to each other and that it's better that we continue Doing Harm to each other and to the natural world just because people should have the right TO DO HARM?
Are you for chaos or are you for love Jim? Which one is it?
Where do you draw the line with people like Fiona and I who stand up to repel the DARKNESS or when we join with others to flood the DARKNESS with a brilliant LIGHT until the DARKNESS is no more and No Harm will come anyone's way?
Are you implying that we should not have to be in duty to each other and to the natural world? If yes, well that is your choice but this is not an option that lives for Fiona and I and for tens of millions of people around the world.
I personally do not consider that the love one feels for life and acts accordingly by the guidance love brings to each of us, should be construed to be a religion or a belief. Do you believe that love is a religion or a belief? Fiona and I definitely do not see/feel love as a religion or a belief and so do millions of others.
Where do I say that we have no love for those who we feel are responsible for stealing our home?
Show me the evidence Jim?
And Jim.....
When you are in the light and all is light "WHERE IS THE DARKNESS"?
When you are in the dark and all is dark "WHERE IS THE LIGHT"?
The darkness is not a natural condition and never has been. The darkness is FINITE but the light is infinite. The light has no beginning and has no end but the darkness is bound to a beginning and whatever has a beginning must have an end. The darkness requires reference points and boundaries to enclose itself within its envelope and only then can a life-form be able to hide from the light. This is how darkness manifests. Darkness can only exist when a life-form rebels against the light. Without a life-form rebelling against the light darkness is not manifested and this proves that duality does not exist as Mike believes "Dualism is the natural process we use to distinguish the extremes of what we encounter. It is part of the learning process. Demon est deus inversus... the devil is god inverted. You can't have an all loving, giving god without its opposite to know it by. The mind is too well trained for that. Mike"
Sorry Mike, but this comment of yours is a load of BULLSHIT. Without love there can be no love and as all of life are aspects/creations of love (light) it takes a life-form to deny love and force itself into a state of darkness. This attitude is stupidity of the worst kind and is the most extreme state of madness because there is nothing you can learn and grow out of darkness. We learn and grow ONLY through LOVE. We never learn and grow from darkness. It is Impossible, because darkness ends (the lie perishes) and everything of the darkness (lies) are no more. But the light (truth) continues on forever. So whatever is of the darkness is of no benefit to any life-form in and of the light. Only light exists but there are many fruit loops in this universe who dream for darkness and are arrogantly ignoring the light and so they suffer and suffer in their own self-made darkness until they finally wake up from their drunken stupor and re-enter the sobering light.
The DARKNESS is a state of mind. It is the act of a life-form who willingly rebels against the light and the only way that a life-form can hide from the light is to IMAGINE IT. DARKNESS is a FANTASY and those who believe in the darkness and who live for the darkness are lost to the light because they WILL IT SO. It appears that you are in a fantasized state of your own imagining (your point of view) Jim. That you are in a drunken stupor imagining fantasies that do not exist for Fiona and I. You are fantasizing your own meanings and are trying to have them be attached to my writing. Lets hope that one day you will see how intoxicated you have become with darkness, realising that your fantasies do not exist for Fiona and I.
The empty space we see at night is not of the DARKNESS and never has been of the DARKNESS. Space is full of LIGHT and that is why we can see all the stars sparkling bright at night and why the same space allows us to see and feel the Sun. If space was of the Darkness then all the light would be blocked off and you would see nothing but PURE BLACK DARKNESS all the time. Space is alive and full of spiritual life-force energy. It is the spiritual universe full of uncountable vibrations and frequencies of living life-forms, but what stops us from feeling and experiencing these life-forms are Fantasies.
Arrogance is a lying point of view which causes the arrogant one to turn their back away from the sun-light (the truth, which is another point of view) and in a state of ignorance (ignoring the light - the truth) the liar can only see and experience its own shadows (the fantasy of the lie) and there the arrogant one exists in limbo until he/she finally turns around to face the light of truth once again. What makes it so painful and ugly for the arrogant one is the grind of surviving in the shadows of their own madness, in fear of conceding their point of view to the light. Arrogance is the manifestation of the most purest form of evil imaginable. Then comes ignorance and then fear. Without an arrogant point of view their is nothing to fear because there is nothing to ignore.
As it stands, for me to answer all your questions right now, would have us become totally engaged in a lengthy debate and this will take some time for both of us to cover so much ground so that we can finally arrive together to a space of love between us, of mutual comprehension, so that the meanings that apply to each word we use, communicate the same meanings between us. Unfortunately today, many people have been trained to become an ADD MEANING MACHINE, so that what English words I use to describe the meanings of the real feelings I feel, will be misinterpreted by others because there meanings are different to mine. Compliments of the English Language.
Consider it like a brand new white shirt that gets dipped into a bucket of mud and then gets pulled out again. Your past and my past are so very different from each other that when we look at a painting together or listen to a song together or read the same book together, we will sense (feel) things differently between us. Does this make either of us right or wrong? No it doesn't. It just means that we are uniquely different. The challenge is then finding a common ground where we both win and we both don't lose. Only a love for each other can make this happen. It is in this space of love where you will find all the answers to every question that will arise from you when reading any of my material. If you are already in such a space of love then you will have already found all the answers to all your questions and you will not require my continued help to help you find your answers. As they are your questions it is only your answers that will put them to sleep.
Without both of us being in this space of love one or both of us will seek to argue with the other and unnecessary conflict will arise as one or both of us clings to our points of view, acting righteously, without ever considering or accepting another point of view. I seek to do you no harm so it is not my place to shove my points of view down your throat. This also means that I seek the very best for you which precludes me from getting into a verbal stoush with you as there will be nothing to gain for either of us. War does not provide peace and I am a Man Of Peace.
Our past (the sub-conscious - our memories), containing all our emotions, all our stories, all our beliefs, all our opinions and fantasies etc, will add meanings (the bucket of mud) to a brand new experience (the white shirt) that arrives into our lives from the future. If we are not aware (fully conscious) of our habits, addictions and word-stories, our add meaning machine becomes a most terrible vicious circle (a vortex of energy) where the same mistakes and arguments are repeated over and over again. This is why so many people go from one relationship to another, and to another and to another, always blaming the other person for the end of their relationship, without ever realising that the monkey (the bucket of mud) is actually being carried on their own back all this time (their sub-conscious) and follows them no matter where they may go, without the monkey ever hopping off. They will never shrug the monkey off their back while they are trapped in their word-stories just like the carrot tied to the tail of the Donkey, going around around in circles without ever catching it and without ever giving up. This is what arrogance, ignorance and fear can do to any of us at anytime.
As they say "Shit Happens" because we make shit happen or we allow shit to happen, regardless if we are conscious of the shit or not. There is a saying I often use "Argue For Your Limitations And Sure Enough Their Yours".
Those who feel a heart-felt calling for a way of life that Fiona and I also feel will naturally come together and together we create their/our dream. If the dream does not resonate for you, well that is ok. You will continue to live in the world you choose to live in and continue to experience exactly how you dream it to be for you. Fortunately for us, we are flooded by people in the thousands, who are now determined to change their world/our world, by the way we treat each other, by the way we live with each other, by the way we feel for each other, by the way we share with each other and by the way we feel for all of the natural world. This is all about a shift in consciousness where we DO NO HARM and in this space of love there is no such thing as greed and selfishness causing arguments over who has what, where and how.
Only those people who seek to DO HARM to others will go out of their way to do DO HARM to others.
In the light of consciousness those who are in the light and of the light can very clearly see and feel those people who seek to DO HARM to others because they stand out from the crowd.
This shift in consciousness is such that anything that is very special such as a fantastic vantage point/location becomes community grounds and is not owned by any one person or family and is there to be enjoyed by everyone. Also, as for beach-front property, with the pending natural/cyclic arrival of Nibiru (Planet X - see info on Nibiru here: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/101) between 2010 and 2013 (more than likely in 2012), there will be 2000+ foot tidal waves, up to 300mph winds, massive earthquakes and volcanic eruptions, lands rising and others sinking, the poles will shift dramatically and a nuclear winter (dust and particles blocking out the sun) will befall mankind anywhere between 2 weeks and 12 months around different parts of the globe. With or without this shift in consciousness you will live where you are determined to live and that is all you can do and be. The destiny for you and your family is always in your hands at all times. With Fiona and I and with millions of others around the world, there is a natural heart-felt calling that we all feel and inspires us to shift consciousness. It is the same type of calling that has geese fly south or north each year.
Hopefully by now, you can see that I do not want to experience shit between us and that is why I strongly suggest/advice that you buy the first 4 Ringing Cedar Books. I feel that these books are more than likely the most important books ever written for mankind over the past 10,000 years. I feel that for the immediate time, that the quickest way to help you find all the answers to all your most important questions that you have raised with me will be found within the pages of The Ringing Cedars. I have heard that they have now sold over 30 million copies and is spreading like wildfire around the world. Contact details are below.
As a gift to Fiona and I, we finally received the first 4 books late last week and we are now on to reading the fourth book. There are 9 books in this series. What is stated in these books is what I have been feeling most of my life. It was only when the bank fraud, condoned by numerous Supreme Court Judges started that I began to finally try and learn how to describe these real feelings I feel into words. The flier page is my first part time attempt in achieving this goal. The flier page is like a painters palette full of abstract ideas and insights and will be completed within the next 2 months or so. Then from this palette of ideas/insights/abstracts Fiona and I will have the tools to create/paint the stories, documentaries, videos, talks, music and other literature etc. Its like creating all the individual pieces that make up a complete Meccano set, allowing us to then form all kinds of creative images to convey our real feelings to the public.
Fortunately for Fiona and I, The Ringing Cedar Books have come into our lives at an important time and these books provide the tools for learning how to fully comprehend the consciousness (the real feelings) that I write about. I suggest after you have read the first 4 books, get back to me and see if those same questions still require my assistance to help you find your own answers. I will be interested to see whether you still consider that this consciousness I feel is a belief system like a religion or whether you still think that I believe in the story of Satan as described in the Christian Bible.
Here are a few of the many Ringing Cedar links
www.ringingcedars.com USA & Canada
www.ringingcedars.com.au Australia
www.ringingcedarsusa.com New York & USA
www.ringingcedars.co.nz New Zealand
www.ringingcedars.co.uk United Kingdom
If you are in Australia you can contact.....
ANASTASIA's GARDEN AUSTRALIA
P.O.BOX 3124, ROBINA TOWN CENTRE,
QUEENSLAND 4230. AUSTRALIA.
PHONE: 1300 652 765
FAX: +61+(0)7+ 55229544
EMAIL: anastasiagarden at optusnet.com.au
AUD $ 29.95 incl. POSTAGE WITHIN AUSTRALIA
THE SET OF PRESENT 6 BOOKS AUD $ 149.70
CONTACT PERSON: Mr. BRUCE STEENTJES
There is another supplier in Marrickville Sydney which can be found in the Australian Website. These books are sold by word of mouth and will not be found in any major book store.
Enjoy reading The Ringing Cedars Jim.
Arthur Cristian
THE SHADOWS OF ILLUMINED DARKNESS
I also suggest that you read this 4 page article I sent to Mike last week. It is now located 3/4 of the way down the flier page
See: www.loveforlife.com.au/flier
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